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The hammer was unlike anything I'd ever seen either It was rather wide for a gun that size, almost the width of the entire slide, and short besides. It could have actually said 'Manhurin' like the poster before you mentioned, but I had a bitch of a time trying to read it. I assumed it was Munich, but it is most certainly a Walther, or a very similar knockoff.
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Here are the main details I remember The slide on this gun was about 3' roughly, but the safety and hammer were different than the models on gunbroker. Walther P 38 ProductionWalther P38 Serial Number SearchA customer at the store I work at came in and was telling me about a pistol he found in his grandfathers basement awhile back. In other words they are an educated guess, but in most cases fairly accurate.The PP is the 'police pistol', the PPK is 'Police pistol, Kriminal' which was a smaller, shorter model that came under GCA 1968 and could no longer be imported, and the PPK/s is the 'police pistol,kriminal special' which has a pp frame with a ppk top and met the size requirements of GCA 1968. It says PPK mfg in 1940 as betw ser#'s 262,xxx and 307,2xx (all with a suffix K)Īny production year/ser# lists for the PPk and PP are based on old records outside of Factory production records, those no longer exist AFAIK. I think it's been published in a book so I won't post it. I found a listing of ser#'s from the old Walther board. (I've got that book, but I don't recall a ser# chart in it,unless it was an addendum page and I lost it. Not a lot of hard and fast rules however! Sometimes stamped into the mag body on either side or even the spine of the mag. On the finger extension, the serial number was often pantograph engraved into that extension. May also be on the slide, on the right side usually.Īny of the proof, Military issue or (Nazi) Police markings would be marked/stamped thru the original finish,not before it was blued.Ĭheck the magazine to see if it is perhaps #'d to the pistol. Sometimes on the frame on the left side right under the mag release,or in that area. But realize that changes didn't happen overnight, on time or in anyĪnother mark to look for if not a German Military issue weapon (no WaffenAmpt),would be possible German Police Issue.Ī tiny Eagle/L or Eagle/C marking is all there was. That can help date the pistol to either side of that date. At about that time the German Gov't proof mark was being changed to the Eagle/N for nitro proof.Ĥ/1/40 was the date that the old German Crown/N nitroproof mark was elliminated and replaced with the Eagle/N. It wasn't long after that shortcuts started to show but they were gradual at first.Ĭommercial proofs would be in order. The high polish blue and fine fit and overall finish was still in order at that time. But I'd agree that with the ser# (assuming it does or SHOULD have the 'K' suffix ,1940 or 41 would be a good guess. I don't have a ser# chart handy,it's some where in the stack. (A few thousand run of PPk's were ser#'d with so called 7 digit numbers (million series),no suffix letter. When ser#'s reached 1,000,000 for each Model,the numbers were started over again at the 100,000,plus the addition of a 'P' suffix on the PP and a 'K' suffix on the PPK. PPK production started shortly after that (maybe late 31 or '32) and used the same serial number range as the PP model. Serial numbering for the PP pistol started at #75,000 (1929) The matching ser# marked on the right side of the slide was generally with-out the suffix. Ser# 285,xxx on a Walther PPK (ZellaMellis) should have a 'K' suffix to the number on the frame.